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Post by s.t.mann on Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:49 pm

ReThink911 Toronto Subway Ads Launched
March 19, 2014
Today the ReThink911 campaign launched its newest wave of ads in the Toronto subway system. For the next two weeks, 1.2 million Toronto residents will see the video of Building 7’s collapse and be directed to ReThink911.org to learn more. According to Pattison Outdoor, daily subway riders will see the ad an average of five times during the two-week period.
The ad blitz coincides with Richard Gage’s 3-week Canadian speaking tour, which brings him to Toronto on March 20 at Toronto University’s Innis Town Hall. To learn more and purchase tickets to an event in your city, visitReThink911.ca.
The decision to go digital and show riders the collapse of Building 7 was inspired by a scientific pollcommissioned by the campaign last September, which found that 51% of Canadians who are shown video of Building 7’s collapse suspect it was a controlled demolition, compared to just 18% who suspect it was caused by fires. When asked who they are more inclined to believe—the U.S. government, which says fires brought it down, or the critics who contend it was controlled demolition—49% side with the critics, while only 20% are inclined to believe the government. 44% support opening a new investigation, with only 14% opposed.
“The poll shows quite clearly what we already knew. Most people who see Building 7’s collapse have trouble believing that fires brought it down,” said Mr. Gage. “It simply doesn’t look like a natural building collapse, and that’s because all the columns have been removed at once to allow it to come down symmetrically in free-fall. When everyone in Canada and everyone in the U.S. sees this footage, there will be widespread outcry for a new investigation.”


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Post by Lora on Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:27 pm

They failed to include the footage of the terrorists flying planes into the buildings before these buildings came down. Regardless of how it happened thousands of people were murdered. How do they explain the heart broken families?

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Post by s.t.mann on Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:09 pm

not sure your thoughts...;  NO question many families lost loved ones!  i was there 3 days later and met some who had suffered loss;  NO question something flew into the 2 big buildings, NO one has ever said that anything hit the 3rd tall bldg in nyc (bldg 7);  the pentagram - ZERO chance of an airliner striking, and little chance of even a missile...its all in the photos (dont forget - i am a structural engineer);  the point is - are we to trust these folks who came up with these explanations, and destroyed all evidence...and immediately thereafter are subject the the beginning of the severe govt suppression we now have?  shrug...

in a court of law, if you are caught in one lie, the rest of your testimony is discredited as well...

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Post by Lora on Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:16 pm

As I understand it, and what I saw on the news the day that it happened (I'll never forget that sad moment), the twin towers were hit in NY, each one coming down later in its turn. Then the Pentagon was hit, and finally, flight 93 crashing in a field in Pennsylvania. The last one was headed for Washington D.C. I have no doubt that it was terrorism and a coordinated attack on the U.S. To think it was anything else seems absurd and very disrespectful to the families who lost loved ones that day.

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Post by s.t.mann on Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:45 pm

yes....but how is to seek truth disrespectful to anyone, particularly those families who suffered such shocking loss?  i understand respect and disprespet....i MET folks involved...they HURT, no doubt...;  but that doesnt mean i am gonna believe everything i am told, particularly by folks known to have questionable integrity...

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Post by Lora on Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:12 pm

That's okay, you don't have to believe it, but in this case, I'm afraid we'll have to agree to disagree. As far as I'm concerned we were attacked by terrorists. I'll only say that not believing it is probably what the terrorists would like everyone to do.

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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:32 pm

but - what terrists??  they could pull off something as incredible as the 911 incidents, and then poof - disappear? 
bypassing all the smokescreen and speculations - how does burning jet fuel (burning temp of 1900 in optimum lab conditions) melt structural steel? (within an hour!)

how come the bottoms collapsed since the hits were near the top of the 2 buildings?

how did they fall so fast? 

what happened to bldg 7, which was not hit

how come no airplane nor airplane impact evidence in the first days pentagram photos?

everything else is smokescreen...

do i know who or why?  nope!
do i know i have been LIED too?  yep!

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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:36 pm

Cursed be the man that trusteth in man. . . . [Jer 17:5]

(remember, borrowing a line from a movie - these are the same folks who said artificial sweeteners are safe, wmd's were in iraz, and anna nichole married for love!)

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Post by Lora on Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:02 pm

I didn't say I trust everything the government says, however, there was more than just the government reporting on this. The whole operation wasn't that complicated. Some terrorists got on several planes in the U.S. with box cutters and who knows what else (easy to do back then), threatened the passengers and walla, 911 happened. It's not rocket science. I'm not an engineer and know nothing of buildings, however, I do know something about God, and if those buildings had fell any other way, we would have had many, many more people dead. And, finally, I don't know what you mean by building 7. I've never been to NY and I've never heard of that building, whether it existed or not. It sounds like a conspiracy theory if I've ever heard one.  What does it serve to believe any of what you say or what most other people believe about this? Either way, many people died. Even if there were no terrorists from the middle east on those planes, they are still causing a lot of trouble in the middle east and elsewhere, especially where Israel and Christians are concerned. The end results remain the same.

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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:32 pm

voila...
bldgs 1 and 2 were the extremely tall ones that fell within an hour...something like 120 stories...meaning up around 1300 feet high...quarter mile;  bldg 7 was down the street several hundred feet, 'only' 70 stories or so if i remember, and was not struck by anything, but at the end if the afternoon it came down...

all three feel at the speed of a free falling object (the speed a brick falls if you drop it from the roof)....STRAIGHT down into their own footprints;  that just is NOT how things happen, coming from an avidly observing structural engineer

pentagram....almost no chance, but i suppose extremely slim, that an airborne something or other hit them;  almost not chance since NO evidence of airplane (airplane engines do not vanish) and 'ground effect' would prevent the alleged flight trajectory;  i am a pilot too;  back to structural engineering - if an airplane hits a wall, the wall is pushed in, no?  the wall of the pentagram fell straight down!  

why important?  who benefitted?  usofa govt - quickly passing all these highly restictive laws, which including increasing limitations of freedom of religion...and that obvously very very evil folks are at the controls

i WENT to nyc sept 14, friday of THE week, i WENT!  i met folks who had lost people, i spoke with folks who had near misses! 

and i dont know about you, but all of the govt story hinges on a phone call made from an airplane;  they must have a different plan than me because my phone doest work on an airplane...and i have tried...

dont get distracted by smokescreens;  dont get involved into speculations....



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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:38 pm

keep in mind, this is an area of expertise, and i have been watching it avidly from the beginning! (my comments are not based on some half baked essay i saw a few days ago)

i remember CALLING a best friend that morning, in the first hour, and commenting - WOW they made those buildings tough!  when the plane hit it going 500 mph it never even budged!!

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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:41 pm

and - NONE of this is personal...my comments;  not about right or wrong, or who is smarter etc...;  my comments are expert comments based on over a decade of avid observation...and the bottom line is - aint no way the official story holds water...we have been lied to by our own govt...we have been treated like fools!  hence we should not trust them!

trust only God!

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Post by Lora on Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:46 pm

As for the laws passed because of 911, I'm with you all the way. I don't think they should have been passed. As far as the verse you're using Jer 17:5, I don't believe it applies here, as I am not depending on man for my salvation or for my strength, nor am I turning my heart away from the Lord because of whether or not I believe what the government says.

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I am not depending on man for my salvation or for my strength, nor am I turning my heart away from the Lord ... - AWESOME!!

be careful of letting 'man' control anything!

yeah, it applies...

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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:43 pm

hey Lora - THANKS for your thoughts and comments!!  it is such a HUGE and RELEVANT issue..but most folks just go on about their way....

i appreciate and value your friendship, and in fact am blessed by it!

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Post by Lora on Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:03 pm

I love politics and hearing what others thoughts and opinions are. Many precious blessings to you!

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Post by s.t.mann on Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:30 pm

actually, i hate politics, especially what it has evolved in to these days....shrug...

thanks for your blessings!!

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Post by Lora on Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:23 pm

I'd like to quote my father on this one, "Trust, but verify." There's no need to live in fear, but we should remain aware too.

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Post by s.t.mann on Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:24 pm

good quote;  but at a certain point does one not earn zero trust?

i like the scene from an old maverick movie (james garner)....playing poker of course, and accuses doc, across the table of cheating;  doc says - you dont trust me?

maverick says of COURSE i trust you!  i trust you to be exactly what you ARE!  and that is a card cheat!

sooo...i have learned...to watch...to learn...;  and frankly - some folks dont warrant a whole lot of trust;  and i have learned that at best, humans are...humans - self centered, deceptive and in need of encouragement, understanding and a Saviour!

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Post by Lora on Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:30 pm

Yes, I concede that some people are worthy of no trust, Jeffrey Dahmer for example. For some people it's obvious where they stand. But, to suspect a person before they've done anything to warrant your suspicion doesn't seem right. Living on this earth involves pain. People are going to hurt us, the Lord even told us to expect it. But, it doesn't mean we should close ourselves off to them. We must do our best to love them as the Lord would have us love them, unconditionally, regardless of their imperfections.  So, yes, in some regards, I agree with you, we should not throw pearls to swine, but we must listen to the discerning Spirit the Lord gave us regarding others and not suspect them right of the bat.

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Post by s.t.mann on Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:04 pm

we're pretty close...i DO look for the best in everyone!  that 'gift' that makes 'room for him', if you recall the passage;  i just always keep in mind folks are in general self-centered / selfish at heart, at least to some degree...;  to me the trick is to know in what way we can trust another...and it is one individual at a time...we cant trust everyone the same way!  you cant te around chocolate for example!  smile..

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